In this interview from the heart of the Amazon region, Walker-Smith explains how faith communities can connect these global challenges. She offers a vision rooted in hope and justice as she prepares to carry these messages from COP30 to the G20 summit in Johannesburg. How are climate change, food, and debt connected? Rev. Dr Walker-Smith: Climate, food, and debt are connected because all of those issues are dealing with the root causes of injustice. This is the basic theological principle: we have the climate crisis in part because we haven't adequately addressed the inequities of justice that come even before climate has come to us. The issues of hunger and poverty follow the same theological premise. They are issues of injustice and inequities, and therefore communities are disproportionately affected by these ills - ills that can be addressed in hope. That is what the faith community offers: we can do this better; we can overcome these inequities. We need the will, and we need the plans. That's partly why COP30 and the upcoming G20 matter. At the table, without weapons, but having the voices of civil society coming together to discuss - as the Bible says - to reason together, to pray together, and to find a discerning way forward. What does the biblical vision of jubilee offer in response to the intersection of climate, hunger, and debt? Rev. Dr Walker-Smith: The Bible also speaks to this issue of repair - right? - repairers of the breach. It speaks to our campaign around taxation and illicit financial flows and other kinds of financial issues that are ancient and found in the scriptures. The Bible says there needs to be a period - this 50-year period - whereby those who have been most affected by injustices and inequities are actually reconciled with the communities that do have. So there is a biblical mandate for us to be at the table to address all of these issues that, unfortunately, have been with us since the beginning of time. After COP30 in Belém, you are heading to Johannesburg where the G20 is taking place. What is WCC's key call to the G20 leaders? Rev. Dr Walker-Smith: So, the G20 is addressing three major issues: sustainability, solidarity, and equality. These are the main rubrics of the G20 in South Africa. Under each one of those rubrics come some of the same issues that are being addressed here at the COP, because we know climate injustice and solidarity with groups that are disproportionately affected - Indigenous persons, Afro-descendants, women, children - are all under those rubrics, especially equality. What does equality look like? But more than this - not a charitable approach, but one of solidarity, walking with. We're on this pilgrimage at the World Council of Churches, aren't we? It's a pilgrimage that looks at reconciliation. We do that as companions - as companions. As we move forward, we want to increase this opportunity in multilateral spaces - not just in the faith community, but giving witness within the multilateral spaces where decisions are being made by policy leaders. Follow WCC's COP30 coverage at www.oikoumene.org/cop30 COP30 Photo Galleries Click here to join the WhatsApp channel with daily live update from Belém, Brazil "Our common home is one": Rev. Sônia Mota urges faith communities to unite for climate justice at COP30 (Interview, 18 November 2025) "To care for the Earth is to love the Creator": Indigenous leader at COP30 (Interview, 14 November 2025) "Less Can Be More:” Bishop Bedford-Strohm on metanoia and hope at COP30 (Interview, 13 November 2025) |
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